The 'Meet The Press' exchange below is an interview scene taken from 'The Avinashi Social Club' (2011), a film celebrating the Karachi days of the Brahma Kumaris. Om
Radhe, a 23 year old woman, was President of the Mandli, appointed by the founder. She passed on in 1964.
Om Radhe's replies are in BOLD and drawn from original Brahma Kumaris documents of the period, and placed in this interview format for the movie. The scene gives a good idea of the Om Mandli philosophy in the late 1930’s,1940’s and beyond: the
philosphy as it exists today did not become fully apparent till 1962. The founder died in 1969.The Avinashi Social Club movie (65 mins) can be viewed at www.vimeo.com/26821419
GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR COMING TO OUR ASHRAM ...I AM SO PLEASED TO MEET ALL OF YOU. I WILL
ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AS BEST I CAN. PLEASE...
‘’GOOD MORNING TO YOU MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR WELCOMING US...WE DID ENJOY THE CHAI. : TO OPEN WITH CAN YOU PERHAPS TELL US ABOUT THE
WAY YOU, AND THE ‘OM MANDALI.’.. START YOUR DAY ?’’
YES INDEED. WE HOLD DAILY SATSANGS HERE...WE HAVE SATSANG HERE FOR OUR ADULTS AND CHILDREN.
WE HOLD OUR SATSANG IN THE OPEN COURTYARD...YOU WALKED THROUGH IT ON YOUR WAY IN. WE BEGIN BY CHANTING OM ...WITH THE HARMONIUM AND THEN WE SING TWO OR THREE OF OUR FAVOURITE BHAJANS ,THE HYMNS THAT TELL OF THE IDEALS OF THE MANDALI,...AND
AFTERWARDS.. AGAIN WE CHANT... OM.
THEN ONE OF US SITS ON A LITTLE WOODEN SEAT AND SHARES OUR OWN INSPIRATIONS WITH THE GROUP.
‘’THAT
SOUNDS AN INSPIRING WAY TO GREET THE MORNING! WHAT IS YOUR PHILOSOPHY, MAY I ASK?’’
OM MANDLI BELONGS TO THE VEDANTA SCHOOL OF THOUGHT. EACH ONE OF US HERE IS TAUGHT HOW
I AM GOD, HOW EACH ONE OF US IS GOD.
IN HINDI IT IS SAID: ‘AHAM BRAHM ASMI’ IT IS ONE OF THE GREAT SAYINGS OF OUR INDIAN SCRIPTURE : THE UPANISHADS. GOD IS WITHIN
MY HEART. GOD IS WITHIN ALL OF THE UNIVERSE. GOD IS OMNIPRESENT.
‘’COULD YOU PUT THIS IN A MORE PERSONAL, OR PRACTICAL WAY, DO YOU THINK?’’
THIS IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION...YES..
I WILL PUT IT THIS WAY. THE MOST IMPORTANT TEACHING OF ALL IS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION WHO AM I . WHO AM I THAT
IS WHAT I NEED TO KNOW ISN’T IT? YES .I AM GOD. BUT WHAT IS THIS TO ME..AND HOW CAN IT AFFECT MY LIFE IN A GOOD WAY?
THIS UNDERSTANDING IS CALLED SELF REALIZATION. THAT IS OUR PRIME QUEST.
WHY? BECAUSE SIN SUFFERING AND SORROW ARE THE RESULT OF A LACK OF SELF REALISATION..A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING...AHAM BRAHM ASMI..I AM GOD WE SAY AND OM TAT SAT...SO ARE YOU... ACTUALLY EVERYTHING ELSE IS EMPTY AND USELESS... WHEN I SEE MYSELF AND ALL OTHERS
AS GOD, I ACHIEVE STABILITY OF MIND, AND THE PEACE THAT PASSETH ALL UNDERSTANDING.
‘’I WONDER COULD YOU TELL ME: IN YOUR OPINION WHO IS SUPERIOR MAN OR INCORPOREAL GOD?’’
LET ME SAY THAT EXPERIENCE GAINED THROUGH DIVINE INSIGHT, SUPPORTED BY THE TRUE FACTS OF THE SHASTRAS, SHOWS THAT A HUMAN BEING BELIEVING HIMSELF AS GOD, CAN ALONE ENJOY EVERLASTING HAPPINESS. THE STATUS OF
A HUMAN BEING POSSESSING THIS IMPERISHABLE DIVINE WISDOM, IS INFINITELY SUPERIOR TO INCORPOREAL GOD, WHY? BECAUSE A HUMAN BEING ALONE CAN REVEAL THE KNOWLEDGE OF INFINITE DIVINE LIGHT, AND MANIFEST BRAHM TATTWA. MOREOVER, HE, OR SHE, CAN
ALSO BECOME INSTRUMENTAL FOR ESTABLISHING BRAHM PURI, THE GOLDEN AGED WORLD OF GODS AND GODDESSES ON THIS VERY KARMA-KSHETRA.
‘’SO INCORPOREAL GOD IS CONSIDERED INFERIOR TO SELF REALISED
PEOPLE?’’
EXACTLY. SELF REALISED BRAHMINS FIRM BELIEVERS IN AHAM BRAHM ASMI, WOULD NEVER CONSIDER GOD AS SUPERIOR TO SELF REALISED HUMAN BEINGS.
‘’YOU ARE VERY CONCERNED FOR THE UPLIFTMENT OF WOMEN IN SINDH, AND WHILE YOU HAVE SUPPORT IN THIS, PERSONALLY I FIND IT ADMIRABLE, BUT THIS HAS CAUSED SOME UPROAR IN THE PANCHAYAT AND THE COMMUNITY...YES?
PRAJAPATI BRAHMA IS INSTRUMENTAL AT THIS TIME FOR BESTOWING UPON THE VIRGINS AND MOTHERS OF INDIA. THE SUPREME STATUS OF DOUBLE CROWNED JEEVAN MUKT DEITIES . OUR WOMEN HAVE BEEN DOWNTRODDEN UNDER
THE INFLUENCE OF ACHARYAS AND PRIESTS , WHOSE CAREFULLY COOKED ANECDOTES FROM THE RAMAYANA AND SO ON, HAVE MADE MOTHERS SERVILE DEVOTEES AT THE FEET OF THEIR WORTHLESS HUSBANDS. NO OTHER DIVINE FATHER IN HISTORY HAS RENDERED
SUCH SUPREME DIVINE SERVICE TO OUR VIRGINS AND MOTHERS!
‘’YOU REFERRED TO GOLDEN AGE, SATYUG,..WHAT IS THAT ABOUT EXACTLY?’’
YES. FIRSTLY OUR FOUNDER IS DADA LEKRAJ, WHO WE CALL OM BABA...BUT HE IS KNOWN TO THE WORLD AS PRAJAPATI GOD BRAHMA.YOU CAN SAY THAT GOD BRAHMA DESCENDED INTO DADA IN 1937, OR 1995 OF THE VIKRAM ERA. PLEASE APPRECIATE THAT IN HIS NEXT
BIRTH OM BABA WILL BE BORN AS NONE OTHER THAN LORD KRISHNA. IT IS IN THIS BIRTH... NOW ...THAT HE IS PLAYING HIS PART AS PRAJAPATI GOD BRAHMA. HE IS PRAJAPATI HIMSELF. HE IS THE CEATOR, HE IS THE CORPOREAL INCARNATION OF INCORPOREAL GOD VISHNU ,
HE IS THE BESTOWER OF DIVINE INSIGHT, AND THE OVERLORD OF BHAKTI...HE IS THE.GRANTER OF DIVINE VISIONS.... SAKSHAT KAL...AND HE IS THE SUPREME INVENTOR OF THE BHAGAVAD GITA’S IMPERISHABLE WISDOM.
‘’WILL
YOU DIVINE DAUGHTERS...YOU BRAHMA KUMARIS BECOME DEITIES THEN ?’’
YES . WITH THE GIFT OF DIVINE INSIGHT., AND BY FOLLOWING PURITY IN ALL RELATIONSHIPS, BY BECOMING COMPLETELY
VICELESS AND THRUGH SPONTANEOUSLY GAINING FAITH IN AHAM BRAHM ASMI, WE WILL IN FACT BECOME THE SURAVANSHI SOVEREIGNS OF SATYUG...
SATYUG OR VAIKUNTH... IS THE ANGELIC WORLD ...IT
IS THE AGE OF KRISHNA AND THE DEITIES ...AND THAT IS CORROBORATED ALSO BY THE SHASTRAS......THIS WILL BE THE SAME SATYUG AS EXPERIENCED 5000 YRS AGO ACCORDING TO THE EVER REVOLVING WHEEL OF THIS CREATIVE PLAY..WE CALL IT THE WORLD BIOSCOPE.
IT IS THROUGH CONTACT WITH THE DIVINE DAUGHTERS OF PRAJAPATI GOD BRAHMA, BRAHMA KUMARI’S,THAT ANY MAN OR WOMAN CAN HAVE INSTANT SELF REALISATION, AND SO ACHIEVE SATYUGI DEITY STATUS.
‘’SO HOW AND WHEN WILL THIS SATYUG TAKE PLACE? ‘’
LET ME ANSWER THAT BY REFERRING TO THE STATE OF THE WORLD. THERE IS
A GREAT WAR RAGING ON THIS KARMA KSHETRA...THEY CALL IT WORLD WAR 2...BUT IN REALITY THIS IS THAT SAME MAHABHARAT WAR OF 5000 YEARS AGO REPEATING IN PRACTICAL. IT IS SAID THAT THIS GREAT CONFLAGRATION EMANATED FROM THE SCIENCE PROUD EUROPEAN
YADAVAS: BUT THIS IS NOT SO. NO. THIS WAR EMANATED, FROM THIS DIVINE YAGYA,. FROM THE SPIRITUAL POWER OF THIS DIVINE YAGYA:
THE REAL BACKBONE BEHIND THIS STRUGGLE FOR WORLD POWER IS NONE OTHER
THAN DIVINE DICTATOR PRAJAPATI GOD BRAHMA AND HIS DIVINE ONES: BRAHMA KUMARI’S.
FURTHER LET ME SAY THAT WE KNOW FROM THE BHAGWAD THAT VINASH, THAT IS THE GREAT WORLD DESRUCTION, AND ANNIHILATION
OF ALL BUT A FEW, IS STANDING JUST AHEAD..VINASH WILL TAKE PLACE 13 YEARS AFTER THIS DIVINE YAGYA OF THE BRAHMA KUMARIS, WAS ESTABLISHED. THAT IS IN 1950.. 1950 WHEN WORLD DESTRUCTION WILL BE FOLLOWED BY THE ANGELIC REALM OF DEITIES.
‘’REALLY ...THIS IS QUITE ASTONISHING!’’
BRAHMA KUMARI’S HAVE SENT OUT THIS INFORMATION IN DIVINE DECREES TO HIS MAJESTY THE KING, TO HER MAJESTY
THE QUEEN, AND TO HER ROYAL HIGHNESS PRINCESS ELIZABETH. WE HAVE SENT THEM TO HIS EXCELLENCY THE VICEROY, AND TO MAHATMA GANDI, RABINDRANATH TAGORE AND OTHERS
WITH THE END OF THE KALIYUG IN 1950..AND THE RE-ESTABLISHMENT OF SATYUG, THE HEAVEN OF THE DEITIES, THE ETERNAL RELIGION OF AHAM BRAHM ASMI WILL ONCE AGAIN BE ESTABLISHED: AMONG THE SURYAVANSHI SOVEREIGNS OF SATYUG.
‘’COULD I BRING THE MATTER BACK TO EARTH...WHAT IS YOUR ATTITUDE TO THE FREE INDIA MOVEMENT...AND MR GANDHI?’’
I
WILL SPEAK QUITE DIRECTLY.
THE DICTATOR OF THE CONGRESS, THE KAURAVS, IS MAHATMA GANDHI. BUT HE IS BLIND YOU SEE HE IS UN SELF REALISED, BECAUSE HE LACKS FAITH IN THE DIVINE DOCTRINE
OF AHAM BRAHM ASMI.
HE CLAIMS THAT HE GETS INSPIRATIONAL LIGHT FROM THE BHAGVAD GITA SCRIPTURE, WHICH, HE PROUDLY PROCLAIMS, URGES HIM TO ADOPT CERTAIN UNRULY BEHAVIOUR,
SUCH AS TREASON AGAINST THE KING, CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE, PICKETING, AND HUNGER STRIKES, IN ORDER TO ATTAIN SELF RULE FOR INDIA. THIS CROW RACE OF THE CONGRESS, THE KAURAVS, ARE IN LOVE WITH THEIR WORLDLY POSSESSIONS OF WOMEN AND
WEALTH, OF PALACES AND JEWELS... EVEN WITH ALL OF THAT THEY ARE STILL HANKERING AFTER SOMETHING MORE,
WE SAY FIE UPON THESE ATHEISTIC,
VICIOUS PRESUMPTUOUS MONKEYS. WHAT POWER HAVE THEY TO OBTAIN THE SWARAJ OF BHARAT!
THE PERILS OF THIS FINAL WAR, AND THE AGONIES WHICH
WILL SOON BEFALL THIS WHOLE KARMA-KSHETRA... CAN BE BORNE PATIENTLY AND SMILINGLY ONLY BY THOSE WITH UNBROKEN FAITH IN AHAM BRAHM ASMI...AND THOSE WHO KEENLY CONCENTRATE ON THE DIVINE DECREES SENT OUT FROM THIS DIVINE YAGYA.
THIS IS THE ONLY METHOD.. ALL THE REST THE POPES, THE ARCHBISHOPS, THE PRIESTS THE VEDA VADI VIDVANS,..ALL OF THEM ARE FOOLISH SELF IGNORANT ATHEISTS , LIVING IN THE OBSCURITY
OF UNWISDOM,
ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS?
‘’THANK YOU MADAM PRESIDENT. YOU HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND
INFORMATIVE."
I HOPE I HAVE BEEN CLEAR ABOUT OUR BELIEFS AND PUR ATTAINMENTS. BEFORE YOU LEAVE I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THESE DIVINE DECREES POSTED ON THE WALL.